Sassbert: I think Ive bcome obsessed with border-bottom:solid 1px black;

Sassbert: does that make me mad??

ArtLung: { display: sassy; style: geek }

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Subject: Re: [websandiego] need some good ideas for PHP/mySQL functionality

>maybe someone out there needs an soap client that connects to a
>weather service and stores daily temperature
>averages for their region in a mysql database….?
>check out xmethods.org for web services server info and
>check out O’Reilly books for soap / web service code.

I just played around with a PHP SOAP client this morning.
Took about 15 minutes to make a “Dilbert of the day” page:

Check out Xmethods for public Web services:
http://www.xmethods.com/ve2/Directory.po

Find one you like, then download nuSOAP
http://dietrich.ganx4.com/nusoap/index.php

Write six lines of code to call and display the service.
http://www.vistaseeker.com/soap_client/

I found that a couple of the services were flakey, watch out, but
there’s great
stuff like ARC/GIS and all sorts of Currency and Weather stuff.
Of course there’s also all sorts of RSS / Blog stuff.

Fun stuff, easy as pie. You could incorporate mySQL by ncorporating a
storage system
for user favorites or personalized streams and feeds.

Good Luck,
Matt
http://portfolio.vistaseeker.com

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Apple just released an X-Windows server- I’m gonna slap it on the TiBook and see what shakes loose.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/

After a couple of years in this Web game, I’ve noticed that there is often a widespread misconception amongst Developers that they are, in fact, Engineers.

Think about this for a second, if you will. An engineer is often formally trained, state licensed, and well-schooled in the fundementals of their particular discipline.

When developing customer portal software you don’t just need to think about the software itself but how customers will interact with it, or not so if they don’t like the design.

This means that Engineers have the necessary knowledge of physics, electricity, and other concepts necessary to solve problems in a broadly-defined manner.

Contrast that with a programmer- Web or otherwise. Many have minimal formal training, aren’t subject to mandated certification, and probably have little to no knowledge of the low-level concepts required to be an engineer.

“The act of constructing software is, in fact, not an engineering process,”
Cooper said. “Engineering to me is problem-solving, which is very different
from solution implementations, which is what programmers [do].” Title
inflation is endemic to the industry, he said. “Web designers are called
programmers, programmers are called engineers, and engineers are called
architects, and architects don’t seem to ever get called,” Cooper
exclaimed.”

Read more here:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/02/12/HNproject_1.html

Just becasue someone can cut an appendix out with a steak knife does not make them a surgeon.

I have always taken exception to non-degreed programmers calling themselves ‘architects’ or ‘engineers’. It’s pure fallacy, driven by ego.